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CUFON Computer UFO Network Document #: 1 From: UFO INFO SERVICE Date Sent: 06-09-1986 Subject: 1947 J. EDGAR HOOVER FBI CUFON-UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memorandum for Mr. Ladd mr. ________ also discussed this matter with Colonel L. H. Forney of MID. Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been established that the flying disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experiments, the matt er is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen's request. SWR:AJB ADDENDUM I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not believe it should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It is not believed that the Bureau would accomplish anything by going into these investigations. DML (Clyde Tolson)-I think we should do this. (Dated 7/15) (J. Edgar Hoover)-I would do it but before agreeing t o it we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the SW case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination. CUFON Computer UFO Network Document #: 2 From: UFO INFO S ERVICE Date Sent: 06-09-1986 Subject: 1947 AAF W/FBI UFO INVES. CUFON-UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES ------------------------------------------------------------------------- DATE OF DOCUMENT 7/30/1947 (B) FLYING DISCS-The Bureau, at the request o f the Army Air Force intelligence, has agreed to cooperate in the investigation of flying discs. The Air Forces have confidentially advised that it is possible to release three or more discs in odd numbers, attached together by a wire, from an airplane in high altitudes and that these discs would obtain tremendous speed in their descent and would descend to the earth in an arc. The Army Air Forces Intelligence has also indicated some concern that the reported sightings might have been made by subversive individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria. (AUTHORIZATION TO INVESTIGATE) 7-30-47 BUREAU BULLETIN NO. 42 -2- Series 1947 You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not it is a bonifide sighting, an imaginary one or a prank. You should also bear in mind th at individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable that an individual might be desirous of seeking personal publicity, causing hysteria, or playing a prank. The Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype o f all reported sightings and the results of your inquiries. In instances where the report appears to have merit, the teletype s hould be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing in detail the results of your inquiries. The Army Air Forces have asured t he Bureau complete cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to make information available to you or make the recovered discs available for your examination, it should promptly be brought to the attention of the Bureau. Any information you develop in connection with these discs should be promptly brought to the attention of the Army through your usual liason channels. CUFON Computer UFO Network Document #: 3 From: UFO INFO SERVICE Date Sent: 06-09-1986 Subject: 1966 J.E.HOOVER RESPONSE CUFON-UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ST-101 July 2l, 1966 ___________________ Cleburne, Texas 76031 Dear Mr. ___________ _ Your letter of July 16th has been received. For your information, the investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects is not and never has been a matter that is within the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI. I can assure you the photograph you mentioned does not represent employees of this Bureau and the FBI has never had custody of an occupant from a foreign planet. Enclosed are some booklets pertaining to our activities which I hope you will enjoy reading. Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover Director Enclosures (2) Know your FBI Story of the FBI NOTE: Correspondent is not identifiable in Bufiles. The Bureau has had other inquiries concerning this photograph. The article which appeared in a recent issue of this magazine purported to be an actual report of unidentified flying objects and has been brought to the attention of the Bureau pre viously. In view of the fictional aspects of the material and our relations with "Real" magazine no contact was made with the magazine regarding the representation of FBI Agents. MAIL ROOM ___ TELETYPE UNIT ___ CUFON Computer UFO Network Document #: 4 From: UFO INFO SERVICE Date Sent: 06-09-1986 Subject: 1949 FBI MEMO RE: PHOTOS CUFON-UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES --------------------------------------------------------------- Office Memorandum - UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO : DIRECT OR FBI DATE: January 10, 1949 FROM : SAC KNOXVILLE SUBJECT : "FLYING SAUCERS" OBSERVED OVER OAK RIDGE AREA INTERNAL SECURITY-X There are being submitted herewith two photographs of reputedly "flying saucers" which were seen at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, sometime during July of 1947. All of the information contained in this letter was received from George Rateman, Resident Engineer, Air Material Command, United States Army, who is the principal army technician at the Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research Center at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Mr. Rateman advised that the attached photographs were taken by ______ in July of 1947. He stated that interview with _______ revealed that he had been snapping photographs of his family in front of his residence at 218 Illinois Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late in the afternoon, when he looked into the sky and observed the vapor trail as exhibited by the photograph numbered "1." __________ stated that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to the next number, when he looked into the sky and observed the ball of fire as shown in photograph 2. _______ made these photographs available to reporters of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning them was run in that paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy of the newspaper clipping, which is also being submitted herewith to the Bureau, the print was very indistinct; the news story did not contain any factual information; and it was regarded generally by the public at the time as a possible trick. Later, it was learned by Rateman And _________ that _________ had made several copies of this photograph and had distributed them among his aquaintances at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Upon ___________ finding that the photographs had received some distribution, he requested Rateman as Head o f the Compliance and Investigations Division, to recover as many as possible of the photographs, advise the persons in whose possession they were found to say nothing to anyone concerning them, and to return the said photographs to him for transmission to the United States Air Force Intelligence Service. Rateman advises that he succeeded in rounding up twenty four copies of these photographs, and that, according to the statements of ________, no more copies were made or distributed. Rateman further stated that _______ had appeared extremely concerned over the matter and seemed quite emphatic that the matter should be given no more publicity than was absolutely necessary. Rateman also advised that he studied the negatives from which the reproductions were made, and they appeared to be authentic in that trick photography should have been apparent, but from the ______________ __________ ______. NOTE: THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS, INCLUDING THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA). THE DOCUMENT IS NOT A HOAX. GUY HOTTEL WAS THE SENIOR AGENT IN CHARGE (SAC) OF THE WASHINGTON FBI OFFICE IN 1950. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY DOCUMENTS THAT, ALL TOGETHER, INDICATE A GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY COVER-UP OF UFOs THAT MAKES WATERGATE LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY. ************************************************************************* Office Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO: DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: March 22, 1950 FROM: GUY HOTTEL, SAC, WASHINGTON SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS INFORMATION CONCERNING The following information was furnished to SA [blanked] by [ blanked ] [ blanked ] An investigator for the Air Forces stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approxi-mately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots. According to Mr. [blanked] informant, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controling mechanism of the saucers. No further evaluation was attempted by SA [blank] concerning the above. RHK:VIM ************************************************************************* FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23 September 1947 SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs" TO: Commanding General Army Air Forces Washington 25, D.C. ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen AC/AS-2 1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs." This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3. 2. It is the opinion that: a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious. b. There are objects probably approximately the shpe of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft. c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors. d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely. e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows: (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface. (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object apparently was operating under high performance conditions. (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects. (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted. [6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated. Continued on Next One FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL, ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided extensive detailed development is undertaken--to construct a piloted aicraft which has the general description of the object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds. g. Any devlopments in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up independently of existing projects. h. Due consideration must be given the following: (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin -the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this command. [2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existence of these objects. (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge. 3. It is recommended that: a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and code name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should be effected. 4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels. N.F. TWINING Lieutenant General, U.S.A. Commanding. The Seattle Times Friday, May 8, 1987 60,000 sightings can't be wrong, Seattleite insists, "The bottom line is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available." Dale Goudie By Peter Lewis Times Staff Reporter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------In their most commonly reported from, the aliens have large heads and stand 3 to 4 feet tall. Their enormous eyes rest under a transparent helmet. Clad in jumpsuits adorned with insignias, the humanoids walk in sure, positive movements. Far out? Maybe so, but that's where they probably come from. And Seattle resident Dale Goudie has talked to people who say they've seen them. Goudie has spent the past 14 years researching UFOs and using the Freedom of Information Act to collect federal documents that he contends prove UFOs exist. The official position of the U.S. Air Force, for example, is that it got out of the UFO business when Project Bluebook ended in 1969. But Goudie says the Bluebook was succeeded by Project Aquarius. Since 1942, there have been an estimated 60,000 UFO sightings in the United States alone and only 5 percent of sightings are actually reported, Goudie says. Feeding characteristics of the 60,000 sightings into a computer, 250 different shapes emerged, suggesting to Goudie that there may be more than one species involved in UFOs. "The bottom line is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available," says Goudie, who has dedicated a room in his home to countless files and papers on UFOs. "The real problem is, no one wants to take the responsibility of telling the American public this (UFOs) is real." Consider a series of once classified material on Project Aquarius: An Air Force document dated Nov. 17, 1980, from the Office of Special Investigations at Rolling Air Force Base in Washington, D.C., to OSI at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico refers to a "request for photo imagery interpretation." Other papers indicate that the request stemmed from a series of "alleged sightings of unidentified aerial lights" over the Manzano Wepons Storage Area at Kirtland between Aug. 8 and Sept. 3, 1980. An analysis of at least two pictures of the sightings concluded that the film was unaltered and that they were "legitimate negative(s) of (an) unidentified aerial object," according to the Nov. 17, 1980, document. Of the two confirmed sightings, one "contained a trilateral insignia on the lower portion of objects..." The document also states: "The official U .S. government policy and results of Project Aquarius is still classified top secret with no dissemination outside official intelligence channels. ...Because of a chance of public disclosure, no knowledgeable personnel with SPA (it's not clear if SPA stands for Special Project Aquarius, or something else) will be provided..." But another Air Force document dated Jan. 25,1983, says "possible unauthorized release of classified material" cast doubt on the authenticity of the Nov. 17, 1980, document. The later document says the earlier one included nonexistent officers, and it sought to discredit the validity of the purported imagery interpretation. When a Freedom of Information request letter dated Feb. 20, 1986, sought information on Project Aquarius, the National Security Agency responded, in part, with a letter dated March 3, 1986: "Please be advised that Project Aquarius does not deal with unidentified aerial objects. We, therefore, have no information to provide you on the subject." But when Sen. John Glenn wrote the National Security Agency on Jan. 7 of this year on behalf of a constituent who was having trouble getting responses to Freedom of Information requests about Project Aquarius, the reply letter, dated Jan. 27, said in part: "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project by that name which dealt with UFOs. Coincidentally, there is also an NSA project by that name. The NSA project does not deal with UFOs.. .." It is Goudie's contention that the responses about Project Aquarius demonstrate the government is saying one thing and doing another. He theorizes that the government is reluctant to admit the existence of even one UFO because as soon as it does, it fears opening the door to mass hysteria. Spokesmen for the Pentagon, the Air Force and the National Security Agency either declined comment or denied that any government agency is actively investigating UFOs. The Air Force quit studying UFOs in 1969 after a $500,000 study conducted by the University of Colorado concluded that "UFO phenomena do not offer a fruitful field in which to look for major scientific discoveries," according to Capt. Jay DeFrank. DeFrank noted that in 1977, President Carter asked the National Aeronautic and Space Administration to look into the possibility of resuming active investigation of UFOs. This is the same man who in 1973, when he was governor of Georgia, said, "I don't laugh at people anymore when they say they have seen UFOs because I've seen one myself." NASA spokesman Dave Garrett recalls that agency's response to the president: "We said, 'Thank you, but no thank you.' We have never been in the business." Dennis Chadwick, chief spokesman for the National Security Agency at Fort George Meade in Maryland, an arm of the pentagon, would not say whether NSA or any other government agency is actively investigating UFOs. Goudie, a 45-year-old freelance ad man and former TV talk-show producer, is not deterred by the government's stance. Two years ago, he established a computerized UFO bulletin board - CUFON (for Computer UFO Network) - that has more than 1,400 members. It spits out information, free of charge, to anyone with a computer and a modem. He also runs UFO Information Service International, a global network of UFO sightings, and Puget Sound Aerial Phenomena Research Inc. None of these enterprises, he says, is a money-making operation. Goudie says he and others like him have been helped in their many Freedom of Information requests by military personnel who want the public to know about UFOs, but who can't afford to be named. Many of the documents he's obtained indicate that "suspicious unknown air activity" has occurred at top-security military installations where nuclear weapons are stored. The documents relating to UFOs dropping in on Air Force bases have been published elsewhere - and professional skeptics such as Phillip Klass, an editor with "Aviation Week & Space Technology," have written books debunking the authenticity of those and others sightings. But Goudie notes the government itself has never volunteered any information, much less any explanations, about UFOs at military bases. "You can explain anything away," says Goudie, referring to Klass and the other debunkers. "But these aren't solid answers." Goudie also says he has consulted with "optical physicists" who have performed "video-negative photoanalysis" of videotapes of UFOs to substantiate that the object are not of this earth. Goudie also says he has interviewed about 40 people over the years who claim to have been abducted by UFOs. All occurred in rural areas, including some episodes outside Redmond, in Maple Valley and north of Seattle. He thinks about three-fourths of them are telling the truth. In many cases, the victims have suffered physical scars that they didn't have before their encounter, Goudie says. "I've tried to get these people to come forward. They don't want anything to do with newspapers. They're scared to death of losing their jobs..." Considering the threat to national security and the risk to civilians, Goudie believes the government has an obligation to be more forthcoming. You don't have to look to far away places for physical evidence of UFOs, according to Goudie. He has a videotape of an object flying over Tacoma in 1982, enhanced by a process known as "video photo analysis" which allows the viewer to see vertical and horizontal lines within what Goudie calls "the plasma" that covers the true shape within. He expects the video to air on Sunday's "Town Meeting" on KOMO. Television, specifically a Dick Cavett show that aired in 1973, started Goudie's preoccupation with UFOs. He's since appeared on CNN's Larry King Show and CBS-TV network news shows, among others. He spent countless hours and dollars pursuing UFOs. His goal, he says, is to see the subject become an area of serious scientific inquiry. "I'm doing it because I think people deserve the facts, and no one's taking the time to do it." DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE _th Security Police Squadron APO San Francisco 96239 SUBJECT: Response for request of Information in Relation to UFO Contact and Other Related Information TO: Len Stringfield 1. In January of 1978, I was station at McGuire AFB, NJ.. One evening , during the time frame of 0300hrs. and 0500hrs., there were a number of UFO sightins in the area over the air field and Ft. DIX Army camp. I am a security policeman and was on routine patrol at the time. N.J. State Police, and Ft. Dix MP's were runnig code in the direction of Brownsville N.J.. A state trooper then entered Gate #5 at the rear of the base requesting assistance and permission to enter. I was dispatched and the trooper wanted access to the runway area which led to the very back of the air field and connected with a heavily wooded area which is part of the Dix training area. He informed me that a Ft. Dix MP was pursueing a low flying object which then hovered over his car. He described it as oval shaped, with no details, and glowing with a blueish green color. His radio transmission was cut off. At that time in front of his police car, appeared a thing, about 4ft. tall, greyish brown, fat head, long arms, and slender body. The MP panicked and fired five rounds from his .45 Cal into the thing, and one round into the object above. The object then fled straight up and joined with eleven others high in the sky. This we all saw but didn't know the details at the time. Anyway, the ting ran into the woods towards our fenceline and they wanted to look for it. By this time several patrols were involved. 2. We found the body of the thing near the runway. It had apparently climbed the fence and died while running. It was all of a sudden hush-hush and no one was allowed near the area. We roped off the area and AF OSI came out and took over. That was the last I saw of it. There was a bad stench coming from it too. Like ammonia smelling but it wasn't constent in the air. That day, a team from Wright-Patterson AFB came in a C141 and went into the area. They crated it in a wooden box, sprayed something over it, and then put it into a bigger metal container. They loaded it in the plane and took off. That was it, nothing more said, no report made and we were all told not to have anything to say about it or we would be court martialed. 3. I will be getting out of the air force in about two months. Do Not disclose my name as I could get into trouble. I am interested in pursuing this and other matters if you need help. Forgive me for not signing this but I can't take any chances. Please reply to the above address and my parents will forward it to me or I will be home already. Don't send it here because they monitor all mail closely and I again don't want to take any chances.